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mike heneghan's avatar

Its time forbthe WH admin to reframe I

The role of ICE at a natipnal level. Illuminate what is going on at a national level and not just MN and other sanctuary locations.

The media has pushed this issue in to a corner.

Time to reframe ICE goals and how its working nationally.

The AI Architect's avatar

The cancer analogy really nails it. In organizational psychology theres this concept of negativity bias where bad events outweigh good ones like 5 to 1, so even a tiny fraction of problematic actors can dominate public percption. ICE's challenge is basically impossible without leadership willing to purge the problem cases fast, which clearly aint happening.

Alex Scott's avatar

when you say they have been in the country for 20 yrs,you ignore that

they are here illegally. yes, there is a difference between civil/

criminal. the adjudication path is different. they are are BOTH

CRIMES. they are not supposed to be here. they form a shadow

economy of no regulation and [typically] slave wages. how many

have stolen or ''fake'' documentation.

Jonric's avatar

I only want to quibble about your analogy. 1 percent and I'm happy. You keep your position of the presidency of the bad analogy club.

Ross Kaminsky's avatar

in the immortal words of Chevy Chase, thank you very little

Mchael Zuk's avatar

Respectfully, Ross, you are incorrect about a couple things. For someone as well versed in Economics as you are, your unsupported claim that it is only 1% of ICE that are bad apples belies the evidence. Indeed from the multitude of video & audio evidence as well as the continued statements issued by the Administration. I won’t throw out a speculative number, but I feel quite confident it’s a lot more than you claim.

As for training of ICE, based on offers of employment, etc. the training is substantially truncated from the previous norm. It’s now weeks, not months, and ICE takes almost anyone who shows up and has a high Testosterone blood level.

As for ICE leadership, please gaze at the optic of Bovino in his faux SS Trench coat. ‘Nuff said.

Finally, the 11th Airborne, the “ Artic Angeles” are in a pre- deployment mode…their target: Minneapolis. Trump’s not backing off, he’s doubling down.

Ross Kaminsky's avatar

Michael, if I am too low (or too high) on my 1% example, that 1) says nothing at all about my understanding of economics, and 2) has no impact at all on the conversation.

What if it's 2%? What if it's 5%? So what? Everything I said stands. And your guess is no better than my guess. By the way, I suspect my guess is pretty close. Your reference to "the evidence" ignores the fact that the only stuff you will hear about is the bad stuff. You won't hear about the 10 times or 100 times as many ICE operations that go off as planned, within the law, etc.

That was not your best comment.

Jonric's avatar

Doubling down isn't winning.

Alex Scott's avatar

would calling it a ''surge'' be a better use to get us to ''victory''?

i hope they keep their heads down, do their jobs, and start arresting

''observers'' as hindering federal agents. one warning, no further interaction.